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February 22, 2009


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all artists were ameteurs once

Sun Feb 22, 2009, 4:18 PM

It seems like a lot of people who trace anime seem to be linking to this journal as some sort of validation for tracing.

I created this journal back when I was the Moderator for Dolls to clarify deviantART's stance on the matter of tracing.

The legal matter of tracing is that it is derivative works and it is only illegal if the original creator of the artwork or artworks has a policy that states "no derivative works" or the copyright holder actually complains about the work itself. Then deviantART will do all in it's power to remove the trace.

Otherwise the derivative work, while highly unoriginal and exceedingly lazy, is indeed ok.

What is not ok is bullying or harassment of people who choose to trace. I don't agree with tracing, and if you've been linked to this journal and are as red as a raving bull right now I'm assuming you don't either but that does not excuse you for shouting and screaming at the person who created the traced artwork. I know you think it's wrong but it's also wrong to make people feel 2 inches tall for something that is technically allowed.

Many of the people who trace do so because they either don't know any better, or because they have no confidence in their own ability to draw and so in their eyes tracing creates a usable product that looks better than anything they draw ever could. Anime bases get people popularity because they are so widely used amoung the anime fan culture as a quick and easy solution to alright looking anime art. This validates the existance of often low self esteem teenagers who are bullied and picked on in school. Don't bully and pick on them online too.

You have several options.

Look up the original drawing, find out about any policys the artist has, and send an email to the artist notifying them of the trace. If the artist is concerned they will deal with it themselves.

Roll your eyes and move on. Or better yet, put your obviously superior knowledge and skills into good use and create better anime bases so that the people who enjoy to use these resources (the same as people create photomanips from stock) have some non traced resources to work from.

Talk to the tracer like a human being, give them tips and self confidence that their own art is always better, more respected and infinately less lazy.

Shout at them anyway, and be potentially reported for harassment.

Also, please remember not all basemakers trace. I hate being told that as a doller and a basemaker I am obviously a tracer WAIT no not your type of dolls sorry. Think before you bash.

Erato by SteamFish Girl Base by CandyLizzard Coquette - Medium-large base by RustChic Base: Sienna by Sariyu p34c3 mini by msdeerborn

To the tracers

I know it's nice and all that you've chosen me as your champion of tracing, but perhaps you ought to have a serious think about why you trace. If you're really into anime art, and really respet and love the anime's or artworks you trace from, isn't it better to leave them in their original format. I know I much prefer to see my favourite characters in all their glory than as a jagged edged pixel trace.

Also if you really love the CG art but are stuck with mspaint check out GIMP it's a 100% Free piece of software which allows you to do many of the things photoshop does. I use gimp for my works, you can too :D

I'm ALWAYS open to help and critique young artists, if you're unsure or unconfident about your artwork you can always drop me a note and I'll never laugh or ridicule you. I just want you to get better at what it is that you love. Tracing might be a nice solution but you'll never get any better if you always rely on someone else to do the drawing for you. I can assure you all artists were ameteurs once.

Here are some tutorials that might be useful to you

How to make a giant anime base by FionaCreates Pixel-Digital doll basemaking by FionaCreates Anime and Manga with The GIMP by tgfcoder
Anime Tutorial 1 by JM-anime :thumb106197655: Figure Drawing Tutorial by StudioQube
Big Guide to Drawing the Body by Majnouna  preparatory work - female body by Chaosdiva Structuring a drawing by gurukitty  Quick face tutorial by Exemi

And if at the end of all that you still want to trace? Well I can't stop you, nor do I really care. Get off my journal and go trace something else because I can obviously do you no good except provide a little shield between you and people who don't like you. Thanks for turning an artist into a shield. Just what I always wanted in life.

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  • Eating: beef
  • Drinking: Tea
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dieliala Featured By Owner Dec 29, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Sadly, a lot of the ranting comes from when a base manages to get a DD/Make the front page and they blame the person who made the base and seem to gang up on them.

I mean common... It isn't the fault of the person who made the base that it managed to get to the front page due to everyone favoriting it for whatever reason.
FionaCreates Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2012  Professional General Artist
Are we talking traced or original or all bases? Because nothing traced gets a DD if it can be helped.
dieliala Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Speaking in general really. Although, I've seen it happen mostly with traced bases.

People would rant about how someone deserves it more than a tracer, talk about are thief and cause the tracer of that etc. etc. and can get pretty brutal... Or they would comment things like facepalm emotes, etc. I mean, I can understand people being disappointed that a traced base/something traced got a DD/Front page but if you have a problem with it - you have to take it up with the admins... not the deviant.
Allendra3 Featured By Owner Dec 29, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Coming from someone who had their art turned into base lineart without permission . . . it's infuriating to see people do that to your work - even if they link back to the original. To see your art in someone else's gallery with others faving it is not okay.

Tracers . . . ask permission before you use people's art. Every good artist was at your level at some point and they didn't resort to that. Leave tracing in your private art at home and don't post it online.
FionaCreates Featured By Owner Dec 29, 2012  Professional General Artist
Oh I completely agree. I also think anyone who has had work traced without permission has right for it to be removed as is legal. If you choose to trace what is not yours to trace you run that risk of being 'done' for copyright infringement.

Same risk that someone somewhere is calling you lazy. You can't get mad when it's the truth.

I just wish people would stop the base hate as a whole and leave it to tracing not the original creators.
Allendra3 Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Yeah, I don't think it even seems worth all the hassle to go through to post traced work.
AnimeFreakCA Featured By Owner Nov 17, 2012
I can draw really well with a PENCIL but, belive me I try and try, I SUCK AT DRAWING ON THE F***ING COMPUTER DX
maya987 Featured By Owner Dec 14, 2012
Me too!!!
FionaCreates Featured By Owner Nov 17, 2012  Professional General Artist
Uh... Congratulations?
AnimeFreakCA Featured By Owner Nov 17, 2012
........sorry about my randomness XD
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