I like how you opted for using a pose reference instead of outright tracing it (and being at risk of messing up anatomy in the process). I think this is an excellent tutorial and a beautiful base, I'd use it if I weren't afraid of ruining it XD
I a) would never trace b) wished to show people if they were so desperate to turn a specific pose into a base there are other options and c) don't actually draw anime so as far as the animeness of this base is concerned it's a little fail... but I'm sure the die hard fans will cope better XD
I know! I like how you offered the chance of having a specific pose without having to steal work, and that's excellent! I wish this tutorial were more popular.
Don't worry about it not being anime enough. The thing that makes something more "anime-like" most of the time is the eye shape. That shape usually comes hand-in-hand with the artist's personal style so I don't think one shape of the other is a mistake. After all, you see plenty of manga and anime that wouldn't be considered like such because of the eye shape (or realistic anatomy) but they are, and it's okay.
People's laziness is what makes lazy artwork popular. It gives a horrible example and makes younger artists think that "tracing is alright". I think it's like a disease. They only look forward to the big pageviews and gifts, but don't know the concept of taking pride of your own skills (or simply don't want to grasp it).
I see so many galleries simply full of bases, and then the artist posts a journal going "request pictures I can base" and they're obviously hunting for some sort of artistic satisfaction they're never getting.
For me dolls has always been about the doll, not the base, and I'd say there are more anime bases than anime dolls.. which is sad.. bases should inspire artists to make dolls, not just be bases for bases sake. For me I make bases with the intent that other people would like to use it, not simply to make a base.
I hate seeing dressed dolls made just for the sake of being made with a base, so I'm with you. Dolling is about making your own art with someone's kind collaboration, not just about making your OC look like your favorite animu character.
thats the unfortunate thing with traced bases.. they have the faces of the characters, not your own character. I remember some old bases made of celebs and there was nothing funnier than seeing someones oc with johnny depps face, or christina aguileras or such XD
So, in order to get past the sketch phase, i should draw a on pixel thick outline over my super thick one? I wanted to try my hand at creating a base, from scratch, so I drew a quick sketch and outlined it with sharpie before scanning it in...is that a no-no? I'm stuck in the "I've got it uploaded and ready to go, but everything is far too thick to work with" phase. By the way, this is a very nice tutorial and I will definitely be referencing it.
you should resize the sketch to the size you want the base. I usually make my bases much smaller than this, but there's also a demand for larger bases so it's up to you what size you want it to be.
Then, yes, you make a one pixel thick outline over your sketch, and then delete the sketch. Once the sketch is deleted you might find some of your lines are 'odd' (especially if it's a thick lined sketch) so you can then go and repixel these lines so that they no longer look odd.
That's pretty damn awesome, you know. I've seen people make a bunch of "anime" bases - traced, not referenced - in which people think a flat skin color and an orange outline will do. Two color bases are fine if you wish to give them a simple outline to work with to help on their shading - but some of these 'base artists' find that it is how the bases should be and no shading at all is required. XD Sorry if that didn't make sense.
I'll be using if I ever make a totally original base again (I've been getting lazy and making bases out of those lovely free sketches people have been putting up).
I would really like it if you used a difrent text. This one is too long and normow it hurts my head to read.Other than that it was usefulish. . . I still can't make a very good peaces of digital art work but that's my falt and lack of desent programs.
you either love to make art, or you don't. If you do you find something inside you that gets hyper excited by being creative. If you don't so much then you end up thinking of art as a chore and push through making things like they're a big hassle to make.
I find that when you start somthing (oil paintings mostly) it's a thrill. Then you have to put it away for a week to let it dry so you don't over work it. Then when I come backa week latter I'm so happy to pick it up again or I am no longer in the mood to make it eather because my art lesson as cut in to somthing I was enjoying more than the rush of the new image first made over a week ago or I haven't progrest very far, and I'm not at my favorit part of adding the detal and I don't know. As the thought of a pice of yours ever give you a head ack because the last few say painings you made didn't work out? but the one before was so amazing and you just want to get back to the way it feels to make somthing disent but the feer that you wouldn't be able to make it just right ever again?
that's why I avoid oils. As a very rapid person I like to work work work at something and get results now. You make your own choices about how you want to go about your art. There are ways of painting which avoid detail and still look amazing. You have to learn to work with your strengths not against them. I'm an optimistic person by nature, and the way I work is "ok that method is failing for me, so I go find one that doesn't fail."
it's an endless task I still don't think I'm good enough.. no one ever is XD I have a bad habit of drawing everything with my own body shape cos I practice by doing a lot of self portraits, or posing in front of my own mirror XD it's like my default.
What I did is referencing in it's true form. I don't like doing it myself this way because I'm still relying 100% on someone else to make the pose first, but if people would use their anime screenshots as references to draw their own base they'd actually learn how to draw anime, instead of just learn how to dot to dot. I spent many of my early teenage years printing off anime pics I like, taping them up in front of me, and getting a blank page and just copying it by looking. It's how to learn. You cannot learn to draw a thing without looking at a thing.
I still do it, except instead of photos I use life. I went to the supermarket the other day to learn to draw shopping trolleys(carts) and I'm going out into the country today to get some nice backgrounds drawn.
We are human, we aren't some all knowing supernatural being, we learn via copying the hard way.
Alright; my comment was in no way meant to set anyone off, by the way. I've just been curious as to most people's opinions on the matter.
I agree with you, this is referencing. Just there's been some argument over whether referencing one image is considered tracing/whatever if it's one pose for one base, instead of referencing multiple pictures.
If I were to reference from just one image, I would credit that image, as it is just myself copying that image so the original artist deserves the credit.
However like I said referencing is not tracing.
I think if one were to copy say one of blackeri's pictures piece for piece (not just copy the pose) there might be some copyright issues, as you have just copied the image in it's entirity. I do this frequently for learning purposes, but keep it in a sketchbook no one ever sees because it's not my concept or idea, just how well I can recreate something.
I think part of the fuss is that people are claiming tracing as a learning tool, but for me, like I said before, my learning art isn't for show, it's personal for me, I don't need to show other people for the gratifying and stroking of the ego. That's for when I can really feel proud of myself for taking what I learned of a technique, or how to draw a hand, or an eye, etc and showing it off as this is what I am capable of, instead of "monkey see monkey do"
Even if I do maker a base like this, I would prolly stop, a little bit into the details... not as far as you went, but I would still do some dithering... ima shetty Pixel Artist, making a base would drive me insane...
manga has such such beautiful details that most of the supposed "fans" miss out on because all they do is watch the anime. Anime is created with a lack of detail because it would be unfeasible to animate all the detail. Manga is intended to be a still image, ergo you can put more detail in. I find stills of anime, or anime type drawing to be very boring and "meh" because the STYLE of anime is intended to move, and in moving the beauty appears. It is very difficult to explain.. but if it's a still picture, treat it as a still picture, a beautiful one.
^__^ true true! I just really like making it stand out in my eyes, and when i feel I can do no moer, I sign it, and out it up... I'm more of a abse stealer though... I need more practise, and a new tablet.. mai old one dieds D;... but anyways, nice insight ^D^....
if you can't do it all in one sitting that's ok. I rarely finish anything in one sitting. I usually shut the file, and open it again the next day. You'd be amazed at the things that then look "wrong" and you fix. It makes the final piece much better than one you just HAD to finish ASAP